where they stand is a strange mixture.
yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the bible and wear skirts and ties to church .
but in many ways they're liberal.
If they're fully conservative, where's all the talk about Jesus, God's Holy Spirit, etc.?
Also like I said many JW converts seem to be artist hippie type that would normally be Liberals if it weren't for the fact they were JWs. They're more attracted by the whole world peace all nationalities thing than the religious element. On the other hand most conservatives are viewed as white bread eating anti-imigration, etc.
where they stand is a strange mixture.
yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the bible and wear skirts and ties to church .
but in many ways they're liberal.
No, I know every strata of society has drinkers. I'm talking about the advertising of it, boasting about it, joking about it. Many conservatives wouldn't do that.
homosexuality, no abortion, highly restricted divorce, traditional gender roles
Like I said, an unusual mixture of the two.
where they stand is a strange mixture.
yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the bible and wear skirts and ties to church .
but in many ways they're liberal.
I say neither. Where they stand is a strange mixture. Yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the Bible and wear skirts and ties to church . . . But in many ways they're liberal. I mean, they subconsciously know they're not normal so they're always obsessed with proving they're normal. Take drinking. So many JWs are I've known are always excessively gushing about alcohol and basically acting like middle schoolers about it. Besides the novelty aspect many others need it to medicate so they don't have to think. I guess alcohol's been part of JW culture since Rutherford onward, from the R&F publishers to the Bethelites. Then when it comes to politics although technically they're neutral most JWs I know often side with Democrats and mock Republicans. JWs are known as being religious, but unlike most other Christians. Their religion is more businesslike and matter of fact. Most are embarrassed to say anything too religious sounding or to mention Jesus. Many many converts came from hippie backgrounds and were attracted by the new world teaching and the return to an earthly paradise. These are usually the same types that are into natural foods and cures, pseudoscience and government conspiracy theories.
Any thoughts?
i speak semi-regularly to an old friend of mine who i would describe as a super-dub.. he knows i am inactive but over the years i have peppered him with a lot of questions about the org.
that i hoped would make him at least pause and think somewhat rationally about the reality of being a jw in this brave new- post gb 2.0 world.. we have discussed everything from the generation changes, to the u.n. , failed prophecy, flip flops, the reduction in size of the wt magazine, the closing/ consolidation of bethels including lay-offs, jw broadcasting, cart witnessing- etc, etc.. what do i mean by super-dub?
he is a born-in, has missionary parents, he reg.
Now that I think about it that might be a good sitcom idea, "My Friend the Super-Dub", kind of like The Odd Couple.
i speak semi-regularly to an old friend of mine who i would describe as a super-dub.. he knows i am inactive but over the years i have peppered him with a lot of questions about the org.
that i hoped would make him at least pause and think somewhat rationally about the reality of being a jw in this brave new- post gb 2.0 world.. we have discussed everything from the generation changes, to the u.n. , failed prophecy, flip flops, the reduction in size of the wt magazine, the closing/ consolidation of bethels including lay-offs, jw broadcasting, cart witnessing- etc, etc.. what do i mean by super-dub?
he is a born-in, has missionary parents, he reg.
Sad but true.
i left 5 years ago and even though i've had therapy and have been medicated somehow, something from the last creeps up on me.
i started writing a book, mostly for my own healing.
i wrote a letter to my parents of everything i had wanted to say but knew i wouldn't get a chance to.
Hi Ft2188:
Just to let you know, I sent you my letter as a PM, not to the email address. You are a new member with one post after all and I can't reveal my identity, so sending you an email from my email address could risk that. No offense, and thank you for this effort.
i left 5 years ago and even though i've had therapy and have been medicated somehow, something from the last creeps up on me.
i started writing a book, mostly for my own healing.
i wrote a letter to my parents of everything i had wanted to say but knew i wouldn't get a chance to.
OK I'm on it.
i left 5 years ago and even though i've had therapy and have been medicated somehow, something from the last creeps up on me.
i started writing a book, mostly for my own healing.
i wrote a letter to my parents of everything i had wanted to say but knew i wouldn't get a chance to.
Sure, what kind of content are you looking for? Am I right in understanding you want hypothetical letters that haven't really been sent to relatives, but express our true feelings?
what a breath a fresh air to be free of watchtower.
now i can finally rant about the things i put up with that i'd never put up with now.. in no particular order:.
little kids in suits.
Those are my sentiments exactly. Such a relief, especially to be able to put anything on your report form as it doesn't mean anything at the end of the day!
do y'all remember the young people ask tape that came out in the late 90s about "bad association"?
i was a fairly small child with teenage siblings and watched it often (with family and alone cause i thought it was the inside scoop on older kids).
that was back when worldly was still very much so a part of dubspeak (i think they started encouraging people to stop saying it in the mid to late 2000s).
Yes I do. I also heard the JW urban legend that the main actor and actress were never alone in the car, but we're looking at a sheet with holes cut out for the eyes. Stupid, I know. But JWs have a tendency to believe, repeat and propagate stupid things.
